Comments on: “Right-Sizing” Your Infrastructure Projects With Cloud Computing Services http://tek-tips.nethawk.net/blog/right-sizing-your-infrastructure-projects-with-cloud-computing-services Tek Tips Whitepaper Library Sun, 14 Mar 2010 15:38:06 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7.1 hourly 1 By: Rob http://tek-tips.nethawk.net/blog/right-sizing-your-infrastructure-projects-with-cloud-computing-services/comment-page-1#comment-447 Rob Thu, 02 Jul 2009 19:36:49 +0000 http://tek-tips.nethawk.net/blog/?p=1373#comment-447 I heard a finance guy, Jim Cramer from CNBC's Mad Money Show, say in an interview with Marc Beniof, CEO of Salesforce.com, say that "the cloud was just a term that referred to getting IT services off the Internet." That is fine, but to those of us who actually have bought IT services, those of us who have owned IT iron and employed IT personnel, the cloud means the opportunity to compete on a level playing field. It means the possibility for open API's and collaboration. When I read these days how Oracle is going to get focused on the cloud, or any of the big guys, we usually think that means the end to the level playing field. It usually means cannibalism. I heard a finance guy, Jim Cramer from CNBC’s Mad Money Show, say in an interview with Marc Beniof, CEO of Salesforce.com, say that “the cloud was just a term that referred to getting IT services off the Internet.” That is fine, but to those of us who actually have bought IT services, those of us who have owned IT iron and employed IT personnel, the cloud means the opportunity to compete on a level playing field. It means the possibility for open API’s and collaboration. When I read these days how Oracle is going to get focused on the cloud, or any of the big guys, we usually think that means the end to the level playing field. It usually means cannibalism.

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]]> By: Alex Williams http://tek-tips.nethawk.net/blog/right-sizing-your-infrastructure-projects-with-cloud-computing-services/comment-page-1#comment-445 Alex Williams Thu, 02 Jul 2009 19:11:28 +0000 http://tek-tips.nethawk.net/blog/?p=1373#comment-445 I think you are right, Nate. CohesiveFT brings in that extra element of trust. One thing to add, we did talk with the RightScale people at CloudCamp Portland. They do warn that cloud computing does require management of the vendors and the infrastructure. It's a more specialized field and you do need the right people and expertise to make it work. I think you are right, Nate. CohesiveFT brings in that extra element of trust. One thing to add, we did talk with the RightScale people at CloudCamp Portland. They do warn that cloud computing does require management of the vendors and the infrastructure. It’s a more specialized field and you do need the right people and expertise to make it work.

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]]> By: Nate Diniro http://tek-tips.nethawk.net/blog/right-sizing-your-infrastructure-projects-with-cloud-computing-services/comment-page-1#comment-438 Nate Diniro Thu, 02 Jul 2009 01:06:27 +0000 http://tek-tips.nethawk.net/blog/?p=1373#comment-438 Alex, I'll ask the folks at both RightScale and CohesiveFT if I can share some of the diagrams from the webinar, they do a great job of helping to visualize the benefits. The bottom line is that CohesiveFT removes security barriers which currently exist in cloud environments; enabling trusted communication amongst instances within a zone, securing communication amongst instances across clusters of instances and across geographic zones, and securing communication amongst instances in the cloud and existing data centers. This is usually accomplished in traditional data centers, at great expense I might add, using a combination of VLANS, routing and/or firewalls. The crux is that CohesiveFT creates private VLANs which separaten of the different networks which are necessary to securely manage, interconnect and deliver application services. So in that sense, trust is super important, and that;s exactly the solution that CohesiveFT offers. In this context, it gives IT managers peace-of-mind that the management "overly" network which RightScale utilizes with be a "trusted" environment. Rob, I'm not sure that this implies that Oracle will purchase Amazon. What it does say is that it makes managing an Oracle environment on AWS much more realistic for an enterprise. As a mater of fact, they actually showed Oracle as an example of the type of service that can be deployed on a RightScale-spawned and managed instance, with back-end communications secured by CohesiveFT. Alex, I’ll ask the folks at both RightScale and CohesiveFT if I can share some of the diagrams from the webinar, they do a great job of helping to visualize the benefits.

The bottom line is that CohesiveFT removes security barriers which currently exist in cloud environments; enabling trusted communication amongst instances within a zone, securing communication amongst instances across clusters of instances and across geographic zones, and securing communication amongst instances in the cloud and existing data centers. This is usually accomplished in traditional data centers, at great expense I might add, using a combination of VLANS, routing and/or firewalls. The crux is that CohesiveFT creates private VLANs which separaten of the different networks which are necessary to securely manage, interconnect and deliver application services.

So in that sense, trust is super important, and that;s exactly the solution that CohesiveFT offers. In this context, it gives IT managers peace-of-mind that the management “overly” network which RightScale utilizes with be a “trusted” environment.

Rob, I’m not sure that this implies that Oracle will purchase Amazon. What it does say is that it makes managing an Oracle environment on AWS much more realistic for an enterprise. As a mater of fact, they actually showed Oracle as an example of the type of service that can be deployed on a RightScale-spawned and managed instance, with back-end communications secured by CohesiveFT.

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]]> By: Rob http://tek-tips.nethawk.net/blog/right-sizing-your-infrastructure-projects-with-cloud-computing-services/comment-page-1#comment-437 Rob Thu, 02 Jul 2009 00:16:51 +0000 http://tek-tips.nethawk.net/blog/?p=1373#comment-437 Does this mean that Oracle will be buying Amazon soon, since Mr. Ellison said the cloud is where they are now focused? Does this mean that Oracle will be buying Amazon soon, since Mr. Ellison said the cloud is where they are now focused?

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]]> By: Alex Williams http://tek-tips.nethawk.net/blog/right-sizing-your-infrastructure-projects-with-cloud-computing-services/comment-page-1#comment-436 Alex Williams Wed, 01 Jul 2009 23:51:10 +0000 http://tek-tips.nethawk.net/blog/?p=1373#comment-436 Sure, cloud computing is here to stay but security is still the biggest perceived issue. I'd like to see some more use cases from both RightScale and CohesiveFT to learn how they develop a sense of trust around cloud computing. Their solutions look strong but perception will determine how much cloud computing really takes off in the next several months. Sure, cloud computing is here to stay but security is still the biggest perceived issue. I’d like to see some more use cases from both RightScale and CohesiveFT to learn how they develop a sense of trust around cloud computing. Their solutions look strong but perception will determine how much cloud computing really takes off in the next several months.

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